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Post by Dan on Feb 18, 2014 17:58:58 GMT -5
We are a Class III/SOT so we deal in NFA items. We have accounts with many of the suppressor companies out there and can obtain just about anything (as long as you have your stamp). We also are a dealer for local manufacturer Tactical Suppressed Weapons and HIGHLY recommend their products. Check them out: Tactical Suppressed WeaponsAsk about anything, no question is stupid. We've had just about everything come through the range and have used just about all of it.
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Post by davesc2 on Jun 29, 2014 21:11:02 GMT -5
Ok, so I've just started to seriously look into getting a trust setup so I can get 2 or 3 suppressors and an sbr going.
Looking at suppressing .223/5.56 (ar and tavor), .308 (rem700, maybe ar) and possibly 9mm.
I guess I could start with are there suppressor manuf's/models to stay away from? I'm guessing like most other things $$$$$ isn't always better than $$$ but what are some consistent tradeoffs? I'm guessing a big one would be lighter material is generally more expensive?
I'm trying to keep the tavor/sbr compact so an 8" long suppressor versus a 5" long suppressor seems counter to that so is there something I don't know about suppressor length that makes the added length worthwhile?
Is there a consistent change in poi shift between suppressor mounted/unmounted or is that something that varies depending on manufacturer/model/material?
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Post by mechanic on Jul 29, 2014 18:18:00 GMT -5
Ok, so I've just started to seriously look into getting a trust setup so I can get 2 or 3 suppressors and an sbr going.$200 a pop As for SBR... I'd go the SIG SB15 route on a pistol. I have an SB15 on one of my AR's.... it's "OK"... nit a huge fan, but it works. Looking at suppressing .223/5.56 (ar and tavor), .308 (rem700, maybe ar) and possibly 9mm.May want to ask around... but I think some are getting a 308 suppressor and putting on both the 308 and 556 guns because it still works (for the most part) on a 556. saves you from buying two. But ask around... not entirely certain how that's working for folks. I guess I could start with are there suppressor manuf's/models to stay away from?Not sure I can help on this one... as far as ones to avoid, but there are definitely "not good" suppressors out there. Next time you're at the range or at IGL... look at what folks are running. Of course, Tactical Suppressed Weapons makes great ones. I'm guessing like most other things $$$$$ isn't always better than $$$ but what are some consistent tradeoffs? For the most part, yes. But keep in mind you typically get what you pay for. if it's inexpensive, it's likely a POS. Plan to spend a grand. I'm guessing a big one would be lighter material is generally more expensive?Yes. Titanium is best, but expensive. Some have titanium shells with stainless innerds. Just stay clear of aluminum (IMHO). You'll find that most of the popular ones are roughly of similar size. Then it comes to weight and if it's serviceable.I'm trying to keep the tavor/sbr compact so an 8" long suppressor versus a 5" long suppressor seems counter to that so is there something I don't know about suppressor length that makes the added length worthwhile?ok... I'm not a suppressor expert, I'm responding because you asked some questions and I thought what the hell... I'll add my $0.02:) But.. as far as length... There are two basic configurations that relate to length. First, compensator matched suppressors, where you have a comp on the barrel and the suppressor screws onto and over the comp. So the overall length includes the length of the comp. So if the comp is 2" and the suppressor is 7"... the baffles (the meat of the suppressor) are 4.5-5". The other version is a basic screw-on, where there are just threads in the base and the entire length is filled with baffles. As far as more baffles (longer) the better... again, not an expert, but I don't think that's the case. I think the suppressive quality is far more complicated... shape and construction of the baffles being a big one. For example, a buddy was running a suppressor about 6" and it mounted to a 2"+ comp, and it was very quiet. Saw another that was very long, but louder. Also caliber plays a role and, of course, muzzle velocity. so much sound is just coming from the bullet. A 300 subsonic blackout is awesome with a good suppressor. Is there a consistent change in poi shift between suppressor mounted/unmounted or is that something that varies depending on manufacturer/model/material? I'm sure some suppressor gurus will find errors with my above comment and likely with the following. A lot plays into POI: ballistics, environment, gun, round, trigger pull, and stability, to name a few. When you mount a suppressor it may (and again, not an expert here) influence - positively or negatively - any number of those attributes. For example, a suppressor on a long range gun can be very helpful in recoil management, which could help with accuracy. Other than my AR... I've never shot any meaningful distance with and then without my suppressor and noticed a difference. Keep in mind I'm typically within 100yrds with my AR. I would suspect, specific to your question, if there is a change, it will be consistent to your setup. I will add, and like all of this, it's just my $0.02, but if you're running an SBR with a suppressor, that's really a CTE/CQB tool, not a reach out and touch someone. Moreover, you'll likely run it on all the time... like I do. I almost never run my SBR without the suppressor, so it's a non issue. Well.... not sure I was much of a help. Frankly, I was just dorking around and felt like writing on the board. At the end of the day, there are some good suppressors out there. like I said, Chad (TSW) makes top notch suppressors, Surefire too and there's one more that's slipping my mind... starts with an "A"... dang it. My recommendation... ask guys at the range you see running suppressors, and I bet if you ask they'll let you run it... I know I would. I'm very pro suppressor ... I think everyone should run them. Also, ask folks like Frankie, Chris, Glen, Destry, Russ, Chad... those guys know everything.
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